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    The lead white pigment used in Rublev Colours Lead White Artists Oil is a modern process lead white with fine particle size (under 45 microns), which is typical of all other lead whites manufactured today. The median particle size is about 5 microns, which is also typical of basic lead carbonate pigments used in all artists’ colors made today.

    Natural Pigments manufactures a stack process lead white and will also release its Krems lead white later this year. Both of these lead white pigments have a much larger particle size range and heterogeneous particle shape than that of lead white pigments made according to modern processes.

    Lead white can form soaps in drying oils, such as linseed oil, especially when free fatty acids are present in the paint vehicle and in the dried paint film. This causes a certain amount of dissolution of pigment particles, since the particles interact with fatty acids to form soaps (in a process known as saponification). This is the primary although not sole cause of the increasing translucency of lead white paint films. Usually the paint film achieves equilibrium and the pigment does not completely dissolve into soaps, unless the equilibrium is disturbed during its life through other chemical and mechanical changes.

    This means small particles may or may not dissolve completely, depending on the amount of free fatty acids present in the paint.

    The drying time of a pure lead white paint film is based on the type and amount of drying oil employed in the paint, and the purity of the basic lead carbonate. In addition, the chemical composition of basic lead carbonate is somewhat variable, so that lead white pigment containing a greater amount of lead hydroxide than the typical amount for basic lead carbonate (usually 25-35%) will cause the paint to dry faster. To a lesser degree, the particle size will also have an influence on the drying rate.

    At present no company today makes a ready-made tube paint using stack process lead white, so to test the differences in drying times between stack process and modern process lead white, we prepared several samples of stack process lead white and modern lead white using the same oil and same ratio of oil to pigment. The modern lead white was obtained from a manufacturer in the U.S. and the stack process lead white was our own make. We found a small variance in the drying time between the samples of modern and stack process lead white. However, the drying time was more greatly affected by the type of oil and when we varied the ratio of oil to pigment, as once would expect.

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    George, Are you considering selling Stack White in tubes or was this an experiment?

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    "At present no company today makes a ready-made tube paint using stack process lead white,..." George


    How much hit rollers get while grinding this paint?
    Rubik

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    Originally posted by Gus:
    Are you considering selling Stack White in tubes or was this an experiment?
    Yes, we will be selling stack process lead white in 50 ml tubes, hopefully by the end of the year.
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    Originally posted by rkocharian:
    How much hit rollers get while grinding this paint?
    I am not sure I understand your question. By "hit" do you mean how much abrasion the rollers receive while grinding stack process lead white? Very little because lead is a soft metal and basic lead carbonate is an easily friable substance. Iron oxide pigments abrade rollers much more, and antimony is one of the worse, and is why you cannot grind Naples yellow on metal rollers-- they must be ground on stone rollers.
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    George,
    I looked up dictionary for "abrasion" and got these descriptions.
    sore, scrape, lesion. 2. rubbing, erosion.

    I had in mind temperature of the rollers while grinding. How much or how high is the temerature they are getting while grinding.
    From your answer I guess it's very little and won't effect anything.
    Rubik

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    Originally posted by rkocharian:
    I had in mind temperature of the rollers while grinding. How much or how high is the temperature they are getting while grinding.
    Rubik,

    You typed "hit" in your post when you meant "heat." I understand now. Three-roll mill rolls increase temperature during grinding due to the friction of the mill paste and other moving parts. For this reason rollers are water-cooled. We keep the temperature below 80 degrees, because some paints, including basic lead carbonate are affected by higher temperatures.
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    Yes, George
    Spell check didn't help me:)
    Thank you for the information.
    Rubik

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    No problem, Rubik.
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    Re: Notes About Lead White

    Thanks for the needful information. Nice post.

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